Multipitch Atlas

Logic Line

Schärtenspitze north-west slabs (above the Blaueishütte, Ramsau) · Berchtesgaden & Bad Reichenhall · Germany

Bail not documentedBolting confidence: medium

The shortest and easiest line on the slabs above the Blaueishütte: eight pitches of water-worn limestone slab, ramps and one water runnel, mostly UIAA III with a single IV+ step. It is closely bolted and often used as a first alpine multipitch. You finish next to the normal route and can carry on to the 2153 m summit.

The Schärtenspitze seen from the north-west; the slab routes above the Blaueishütte climb this side of the mountainPhoto: Jörg Braukmann · CC BY-SA 4.0

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The Schärtenspitze seen from the north-west; the slab routes above the Blaueishütte climb this side of the mountainPhoto: Jörg Braukmann · CC BY-SA 4.0
Hardest pitch
4c
Pitches
8
Length
260 m
Approach
15 min
Aspect
NW
North-west-facing
Rope
1×50 m
walk-off

The route

Overview

Logic Line is the easiest of the bolted slab routes on the north-west side of the Schärtenspitze, a quarter of an hour above the Blaueishütte in the Hochkalter group. Eight pitches of 20 to 40 m follow slabs, a ramp, a grassy bulge and a water runnel, almost all at UIAA II to III+, with one IV+ passage on the runnel slab of pitch 5. Belays and protection are bolted and both the hut and bergsteigen.com describe it as a plaisir route that needs no extra gear. The setting is alpine: the start is at about 1780 m and the hut is a two-hour walk from the valley, so most parties stay a night.

The climbing

Pitch by pitch

Pitches of Logic Line
PitchGradeLengthNotes
P1325 mUIAA III. Straight up water-worn slabs to the belay.
P23+35 mUIAA III+. A short vertical step at first, then rightwards through a small corner to a belay on a knob.
P3340 mUIAA III. Follow the ramp straight on to the next belay. The variant start joins here.
P4335 mUIAA III. Trend left across a grassy bulge, then follow a gully to a belay on the slab. There is an alternative belay before the gully, at about 30 m.
P54c20 mUIAA IV+, the crux. Climb the water runnel in the slab, and at its end move left along a step to the belay.
P63+35 mUIAA III+. Slightly right at first, then follow a corner on the left to its end, and finally back right to the belay.
P7335 mUIAA III. Straight up a pillar, cross a grass ledge, go round the corner and sharp right over a step to a belay in a hollow.
P8235 mUIAA II. Straight up easy slabs to a rock knob and the last belay, close to the normal route.

Getting there

Approach

To the parking

From Berchtesgaden drive about 7.5 km west to Ramsau, go through the village following signs for Hintersee, pass Gasthof Datzmann and after about 500 m park at the 'Staatsstraße' car park on the right. The marked path via the Schärtenalm reaches the Blaueishütte (about 1700 m) in roughly 2 hours. The pay car parks at Hintersee and at the end of Ramsau also work, at 2.5 to 3 hours to the hut.

On foot · about 15 min

About 15 min from the Blaueishütte (bergsteigen.com; the Bergsteigerdörfer page allows around 30 min for the slabs in general). Take the path towards the Hochkalter and Blaueis glacier, turn off at the signpost towards the Steinberg, and after about 100 m leave that path to the right towards the obvious slab wall. Cross scree between big boulders to the point where the low-angled slabs reach furthest down in a tongue: the route starts there. A two-pitch variant start begins 20 m further right.

Map of the walk-in

  • Crag
  • Parking

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The point marks the crag, not the exact start of the route.

Coordinates · crag

47.58210, 12.86990

Parking

47.60580, 12.86160

Car park on the Ramsau to Hintersee road, start of the Blaueishütte path (bergsteigen.com marker)

Point from bergsteigen.com map marker 'Einstieg (ungefähr)' for Logic Line

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Getting down

Descent

From the last belay join the marked normal route of the Schärtenspitze, which has short cabled passages (via ferrata grade A/B) and grade I scrambling, and follow it down to the Blaueishütte in about 45 min. The summit is a short detour up the same path.

Retreat

Bailing off the route

Bail not documented

Retreat is not described by any source; the route is always finished onto the normal route. Every belay is bolted, but whether the belays are rigged for abseiling is not stated. Pitches 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 are 35 to 40 m long, so the single 50 m rope the route is climbed on would not reach the belay below in one abseil.

Retreat from
Not documented.
Point of no return
Not documented. From the top of pitch 5 the remaining climbing is UIAA II to III+, so finishing is usually the simpler option (inferred).
Carry
If you want the option of abseiling, climb on two ropes and carry a maillon or two and some cord (inferred from the pitch lengths).
Basis
Inferred from the route factsSources give bolted belays, pitch lengths and a walk-off only; nothing on abseil rigging.

Partly inferred from the route facts

Safety

Hazards

  • Alpine setting with the start at about 1780 m: low-angled slabs and a water runnel are a bad place to be caught by rain or a thunderstorm, and there is no documented quick way off.
  • The descent is a mountain path with cabled sections and grade I scrambling, not a lowering-off descent; keep approach shoes with you.
  • Other parties above on the slabs and on the normal route can dislodge stones.

Sun and weather

Conditions

North-west facing with the start at about 1780 m, so the slabs are in shade in the morning; the Bergsteigerdörfer page says the sun arrives around noon. bergsteigen.com gives May to October, but the hut's opening dates and old snow at the foot of the slabs decide the real start of the season. Slabs and the water runnel need to be dry.

Usual season · May to Oct

Sun on the wall · NW-facing

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Sun on the wallDaylight, wall in shade● Usual season

Estimated from the wall's aspect only. Ignores surrounding terrain, gullies and the wall's exact shape. Clock times are local to the wall (Central European time), for the 15th of each month.

Monthly climate averages for Berchtesgaden & Bad Reichenhall, 1991-2020
MeasureJanFebMarAprMay (usual season)Jun (usual season)Jul (usual season)Aug (usual season)Sep (usual season)Oct (usual season)NovDec
Mean daily high °C−10371216181814104−1
Mean daily low °C−10−9−6−3268851−5−9
Rain days 1 mm or more141417162020211916141315

● marks the usual climbing season. Averages for 1991-2020 at about 1337 m. Area climate from Open-Meteo reanalysis. Temperatures are adjusted to the height of the crag; rain comes from a grid cell of about 10 to 25 km, and summer highs on sea cliffs can read a few degrees low. The wall and valley can differ. Data: Open-Meteo, CC BY 4.0.

What to carry

Gear

A 50 m single rope, 8 quickdraws, a few slings for the threads, helmet. No nuts or cams are needed according to the hut topo.

Checklist

Quickdraws
8
Rope
1×50 m (walk-off)
Helmet
One each
Maillons or spare karabiners
To leave behind if you retreat
Cord
Mentioned for retreat

Derived from the route data; check it against a current topo

From climbers

Reader reports

Reader reports are not being collected yet. Until they are, check a current topo and the local club or guidebook publisher for recent changes to Logic Line.

Worth knowing

Tips

  • Stay at the Blaueishütte: the walk-in from Ramsau takes about 2 hours and the neighbouring slab routes make a good second day.
  • bergsteigen.com recommends it for alpine novices and plaisir climbers, so you may not have it to yourself.
  • The climbing time is 2 hours on the hut topo and 3 hours on bergsteigen.com.

Open questions

Where sources disagree

  • Name: 'Logic Line' on bergsteigen.com, 'Logig Line' on the hut topo and the Bergsteigerdörfer page.
  • Grade: IV+ for one passage (hut topo and bergsteigen.com) against V on the Bergsteigerdörfer page. The hut topo is followed.
  • Length: the hut topo's pitches add up to 260 m; bergsteigen.com gives 290 m and Bergsteigerdörfer 240 m.
  • Approach from the hut: 15 min (bergsteigen.com) against about 30 min (Bergsteigerdörfer, for the slabs in general).
  • Aspect: bergsteigen.com says north-west; the Bergsteigerdörfer page calls the same slabs the west face.

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